a thought or two
I'm sitting here watching the news...General Motors bailout...stock market down 250 today...And I realize none of this stuff would be happening if McCain were President now.
Had McCain won, the Dow would have skyrocketed to new heights the day after the election. Out of relief.
Bailouts? Yeah. Probably. Somewhat. But I think the Old Jackass would have told GM to stick it. I don't think he would believe that it was in the presidential perview to hire & fire corporate executives.
Instead, the market has been declining out of fear and uncertainty over uncertainty of the Magic Negro. And rightfully so.
And how ironic. All of these GM employees -- certainly Obama voters -- now face the very real notion of their company going bankrupt. And if that happens, Whoops! A sucky Pension insured by the government? And definitely no more gold-plated benefits.
Speaking of benefits...Chris Dodd, is head of the Senate Banking Committee. And AIG made contributions to Dodd's re-election campaign BECAUSE he was going to BECOME the chair of the Banking Committee.
What if the Chairs of the various committees were unknown to the public? That would eliminate the lobbying problems right there. Of course, open government advocates would shoot my idea down and there would be no accountability, but you get my point, don't you?
Had McCain won, the Dow would have skyrocketed to new heights the day after the election. Out of relief.
Bailouts? Yeah. Probably. Somewhat. But I think the Old Jackass would have told GM to stick it. I don't think he would believe that it was in the presidential perview to hire & fire corporate executives.
Instead, the market has been declining out of fear and uncertainty over uncertainty of the Magic Negro. And rightfully so.
And how ironic. All of these GM employees -- certainly Obama voters -- now face the very real notion of their company going bankrupt. And if that happens, Whoops! A sucky Pension insured by the government? And definitely no more gold-plated benefits.
Speaking of benefits...Chris Dodd, is head of the Senate Banking Committee. And AIG made contributions to Dodd's re-election campaign BECAUSE he was going to BECOME the chair of the Banking Committee.
What if the Chairs of the various committees were unknown to the public? That would eliminate the lobbying problems right there. Of course, open government advocates would shoot my idea down and there would be no accountability, but you get my point, don't you?
posted by Kent at 7:21 PM
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Zogby has an interesting poll out. The number of people who think we're moving in the right direction is now 45%, slightly up from last week. But Obama's approval rating has dropped to 50/50, down three points from last week. People still have a favorable view of him by a 55-43 margin, but that's dropped slightly as well.
Hmmm. Some up, some down. Too soon to say for sure what that means.
But, of course, Obama's poll numbers haven't tanked! No logical person would ever think BO's numbers are in the crapper. And his numbers are still higher than Bush's! Yeah, Bush sucks!! Republicans suck!!!
WaPo has a new poll out. The number of people who think we're moving in the right direction is now 42, triple that from when Bush was in office. Obama's approval rating is at 66%.
What it means is one poll is one poll. The trend of major polls is a much more accurate way to measure data. That way you get the ups and downs and you get an average.
Just like in baseball when you calcualte a players career batting avg. You don't pick their highest avg. and say that is what their avg. is, you take all years including the bad ones. In this case approval ratings are compiled once a month, one poll will be one poll. And all can change daily.
Almost forgot the rest of my comment.
Including last week's Rasmussen poll the one you two couldn't quit talking about, the trend line for Obama's approval rating is 58%. You can view it here.
If 58% is in the crapper, then I would really hate to see what 25% is. And if 58% is tanking then I would I'll take tanking any day.
Furthermore, if you look at Andy's above mentioned Zogby poll, or really any poll, but just take the Zogby since it was already brought up, it unequivocally states that 91% of Dems approve of the job Obama is doing, which just goes against everything Kent has been saying that Dems and liberals have jumped ship. Just no proof of it whatsoever.
Tanking and jumping ship isn't happening.
You are such a hack. Do you have an original thought, or do you just parrot what they fed you on Fox News?
Here is your statements VS reality...
* Had McCain won, the Dow would have skyrocketed to new heights the day after the election. *
in reality... we would be far worse shape. The country wanted something other than the lack of leadership, the corruption, endless war, etc.
*Bailouts? Yeah. Probably.*
In reality: Most definitely. Both supported this fascist bailout. I know that's not convenient for your blog's outlook.
*Instead, the market has been declining out of fear and uncertainty over uncertainty of the Magic Negro.*
Magic Negro, huh? Boy Kent, you're a real class act. Far cry from that phoney claim you made after the election. "I extend my hand in friendship."
Munchkin Pundit, you make me want to puke.
Every news account I've read in the run-up to the G20 has included something about 'Obama's falling poll numbers.'
I don't disagree with your poll assertions, Chris. We can both find polling to substantiate our positions.
Bottom line, Obama's numbers aren't what they were a few months ago. Which I think Andrew, you and I will all agree was inevitable, right?
But your assertions aren't even close to being substantiated. You're saying that his numbers have tanked and that Democrats and liberals jumped shipped. You've said it a hundred times a hundred different ways, but the gist of it is still the same, numbers in the crapper and supporters detracting.
Not one single poll shows that, not even the ones you and Andy keep talking about. The above mentioned Zogby poll shows just the opposite of everything you said. And the Rasmussen poll from the other day does as well.
But now you say his numbers aren't what they were a few months ago? It's been two months not a few and yes, absolutely they aren't in the 70s and 80s like they were, but 50s and 60s are very good approval ratings. Any president would gladly take them.
I think we've finally found some common ground, however. 'Bout time punk :)
Yeah, Punk. Common ground. Good stuff.
But I still see you haven't acknowledged -- and I know this will be extremely tough for you -- that Obama's current numbers are lower than Bush's numbers at the same point in 2001.
If you can squeeze out that admission, hard as it's gonna be, then we might really be going places, CBarr.
Yeah, but as I recall, Bush's numbers were higher about now in his first term. Quoting numbers from the end of his administration, compared to Obama's at the beginning of his, is not an accurate comparison. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had high approval in the beginning - almost every president does, because once he is inaugurated, the people hope that the right choice was made.
I never used the term 'jumping ship' (or maybe I did, I'm too lazy to check) - but there are rumbles of discontent, and ignoring them is not a good idea. Furthermore, the Dems are quite scattered on several issues right now: card-check, the budget, the Pentagon budget, Gitmo and what to do with the rascals we have there, the auto bailouts, and it looks like "Don't Ask;Don't Tell" is off the table.
Oh, interesting anecdote for you, Chris. In my unit, it was common knowledge that one of our platoon sergeants and two or three of the corporals in our commo detachment were gay. Didn't matter a whit to me, or anyone else. A few folks were uneasy on occasion, but for the most part it didn't make a difference. On patrol, making a stop, or in the middle of an operation, it left the mind completely. We relied on each other, and what someone did on leave or before they joined didn't make a difference (except for one troop who made the mistake of telling a story about his days dancing in a local theatre company - we always gave him hell about it, and he was straight). In some units, a gay soldier might get treated a bit worse, but I've only heard about such things, never saw anyone treated badly myself. Did see a few instances of racial problems, but again, once you're in the mud, that all goes away.
So when you were trying to reverse-caricature me as a homophobe (or whatever you were trying to do a few posts ago), you're barking up the wrong tree. Even if you were gay (which is something I've never accused you of - I don't have to go back and check that), any ridicule you get isn't gonna come from my direction. I concern myself with what matters and what affects me - what somebody does or does not do in their own life is manifestly unimportant to me.
Barney Frank is gay. Oh, sorry.
Kent, I haven't looked at or seen anything that shows a comparison of Bush numbers 70 days in versus Obama numbers through same time period. Gallup had one from last week that showed Obama at 61, Bush at 58 and Clinton at 53, through the first 60 days.
If we go back through presidents, Obama is right on par with other past presidents in terms of approval numbers, no doubt about that. But I'm not the one saying he's tanked and his support has vanished. I also wasn't the one defending Bush when his numbers were in the 20s either.
Andy, rumblings of discontent? Sure, but Democrats and liberals haven't jumped ship like Kent said they had. Since there are so few Republicans in Congress, it's hard to say that they are scattered since spotting one is rare itself. But certainly united they are not.
Where did I say you were gay? I said I wasn't, but that I did understand your infatuation with me. That doesn't make you gay, a little man love is alright isn't it? Kent is infatuated with Rush Limbaugh and he certainly isn't gay.
No, I'm infatuated with Carrie, the acupuncturist with probably the world's greatest butt, and hot, blond, single and sexy Megan from Facebook.
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